Form 1 NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD Award No. 7563
SECOND DIVISION Docket No. 7479
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The Second Division consisted of the regular members and in
addition Referee James F. Scearce when award was rendered.
( International Association of Machinists and
( Aerospace Workers
Parties to Dispute:
( St. Louis Southwestern Railway Company
Dispute: Claim of Employes:
1. That Machinist W. L. Robinson was dismissed without a cause, and
without a fair and properly held investigation.
2. That Carrier, accordingly should be ordered to immediately
reinstate Machinist Robinson with seniority intact, aryl that he
be made whole for all losses resulting from his unfair dismissal
including, but not limited to vacation credit, all wage loss,
any medical or dental expense equal to the amount that would
have been paid by his group insurance. That all documents
relating to this matter be removed from his personal record.
Findings:
The Second Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record, and
all the evidence, finds that:
The carrier or carriers and the employe or employes involved in this
dispute are respectively carrier and employe within the meaning of the
Railway Labor Act as approved June 21, 1934.
This Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute
involved herein.
Parties to said dispute waived right of appearance at hearing thereon.
Claimant was employed as a Machinist at Pine Bluff, Arkansas on
February 23, 197-+, and prior to the incident which gave rise to the claim
before us, had apparently never beer. disciplined for any other infractions.
On September 21, 1976, Claimant was withheld from service after alleged
misconduct described in the following charges:
1. Failure to properly perform his duties during tour
of duty 3:00 P.M. to 11:00 P.M. September 21, 1976.
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2. Refusal to comply with instructions of Mechanical
Supervisor J. C. Scroggins to report to office of
Plant Manager D. L. Minter about
3:x+5
P. M., September
22,
1976.
3.
Refusal to comply with instructions of Plant Manager D. L.
Minter to accompany him to his office about
3:55
P.M.,
September 22,
1976.
Carrier's notice of charges also contained several operating rules
which it alleged Claimant violated.
Following the hearing,.Claimant was discharged, and the case is now before
us for consideration.
The Organization contends that the charges against the claimant were
not precise and that Carrier, in essence, went on a "fishing expedition"
in citing several of the rules against Claimant. We have reviewed this
contention very carefully, and while concluding that Carrier's practice in
this case came close to being a "fishing expedition" charge, it was not so
broad and vague that Claimant was not able to understand it and adequately
defend himself against.
The transcript of the investigation and evidence of record indicates
a hard fought battle between very competent representatives of labor and
management. We conclude that substantial evidence exists which established
that Claimant was, very clearly, guilty of insubordination on the day in
question. We are not able to conclude that Claimant failed to complete
assigned duties, because there is no hard evidence that his supervisor gave
him specific instructions which he had failed to execute.
This is another of the many insubordination cases which have been
heard by this Board over the years. We find that in this case, Claimant's
supervisors acted in a firm, but civil manner toward Claimant in advising
him of the consequences if he refused to comply with their instructions.
Yet, Claimant refused. We wish to call attention to all concerned that the
rule of thumb in such instances is "obey now and grieve later." That
principle applies unless carrying out orders would subject the employe to
a clear and present danger to himself or fellow employes,and there is no
evidence in this case that any such clear and present danger was involved.
If the Claimant believed that what he was requested to do was in violation
of the labor agreement between the parties, it was still his obligation to
carry out those orders and then file a grievance through the provided for
machinery for handling and progressing grievances.
Claimant has now been out of service close to two (2) years. We hope
that during this time, he has learned a valuable lesson. On the basis that
he has hopefully become aware of this important principle in employeemployer relationships, we will reinstate him to service, with seniority
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unimpaired, but without pay for time lost. Our decision in this regard is
also guided by the fact that he has apparently had no previous discipline
while employed with the Carrier. Needless to say, should this employe ever
again become involved in such a clear case of insubordination, this Board
may not look so favorably on reinstatement.
A W A R D
Claim sustained in accordance with the findings.
NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD
By Order of Second Division
Attest: Executive Secretary
National Railroad Adjustment Board
By /~- _ _~ ~- L--
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osemarie Brasch - Administrative Assistant
Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 16th day of June, 1978.