Form 1 NATTOXI~.L RAILROAD ADJUSTi,52dT BOARD Award No. 7574
SECOND DIVISION Docket No. 7462
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Parties to Dispute: ( (Cafmen)



Dispute: Claim of Fmnloyes:







F z nd-i_ ng; s

The Second Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record and all the evidence, finds that:

The carrier or carriers, and the enrE)loye or employes involved in this dispute are respectively carrier ind employ e within the meaning of the
,~ Railway Labor Act as approved June 21, 1934.

This Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved. herein.



Claimants were both Carmen of the St. Louis Southwestern Railway at fine Bluff, Arkansas prior to their discharge. The events living Vi se to this dispute connenced on or abant October C, 1.975, iorhcn Claimants were both removed iron se'f'vice rending a hea:~.r.because of tlicir alleged involvement in the tl.,`_:'t of. tire. from a. z'e~ ht car in transi=t E.t ,'irt~ Bluff on October 5, 1975. CaVr:i.e.r schectu'led. L':~e hearing for Noveribe.r 12, 1975 by letter dated October 22, 1975. On hovc:.;iben 10, 1975, the Ocneral
Chairman, t .1_.lie r, , rv ~ ~ ; for postponement ~ 'e<y~.7.~t of one of t~.c ~'la.:im: ;~.Yus, asked o.~


the hearing to a nriut1?.al :Ly aE;r eea b?_e date becz-uoo of the fact tt,.at t"lie
Claimant 7'i-as' ','cheailed to appea,r :-rz c cian_9 ·'~>,a. count for the ~;:zar~e matter on
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November 12, 1975. Carrier agreed to this postponement. Ther'eaf`ter, by
letter dated December 29, 1975, Carrier rescheduled the hearing for Jan;,nry
7, 1976 and, after the conclusion of the hearin, by letter dated ianuar-Y
14, 7..976, Carrier' officer notified Claimants of their dismissal from
service as a result of the evidence developed during the hearing.


of the controlling agreement, and particularly Rule 24 - 1, when it remo,=cci.
the claimants from service and thereafter failed to promptly hold a hearing
as the rule so stipulates. Award 65';.1. between the same parties, is cited
for support. Carrier defends its position regarding this issue on the
basis that the hearing was not scheduled until November 12, 1975 because
both of Clai_lrants' accuser's, the Railuny's Special Agents, could not be
present until ti:-at W ate, and. that this was the banis for the further
postponement until jannary 7, 1976. Carrier ihrv, er- points to the fact:
that the hearing originally W,._,, scheduled for Novelrber 1?, ~.nd postponed ~:'trxG~ ~
the Claimant's request ;;o that it r;ould not conflict with his court appet_rance
on the same offense.

In discussing this procedural issue, we first of all highlight that the charges aga:ira.>r both enxl'icy~-cs were serious. Under a host o:i.' p?wcvcu decisions from this Board rccognizinq the difference betwoen criminal proceedings and internal, r~:!1road disciplinary proceedings, the twu matter,-here were separate proceedings Fin:. the Gu'C.COI''e of One.' h123y not nece,ssarll_ affect the outcone of the other. ieveirtheles, Carrier favored Claimant's
~; reqye st for a postponm!ent of the disciplinary Hering so that he could. appear at the court to defend himself nc;ainst crlin~i_nal charges. Carrier certainly cannot be faulted for this favor it extended to ClaKnrt.

Secondly, we have revs evTed the findings of hvard 65'+l , cited by the Organization for support of their position. There, we found that a delay of 16 days to the date of hearing and a delay of an additional 13 days for rendering the decision was, under the circumstances, excessive. In that case, however, Carrier merely assessed the employe i;-) demerits as a result of its conclusions following the hearing and permitted him to return 'to woh. as soon 2.s it rendered its decision. As we said, we found there that "under all the K~ rye R -tihcf,s of thi~s_ c_^s_e, (underscoring ours) . . . the 29 days suspension in '.1act .. exceeded the lim:;_ts of promptness ..."

We do not quarrel with the findin;s of that decision as it applied to the facts and ci rcu2ustances therein. 11iere, ho*xrever, the Claimants were

charged with one Of: the f..".Cost serious, 7i' not the most serious, offense - an offense, which, 1'i ,ja1'OVan, nOInally results in 02charge. Thus, it nos imperative that they have the right to face both of their accusers, the hallway's Special Agents, at the same time, t0 proscrve every possible vinht of daze process which they VZht have under the agreement.
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protects Claimants' HER Eht thoroughly in the event their suspension or
discharge is found to be unjust:



We conclude that these two factors discussed, supra, preserved Claimants' procedural and substantive rights under the contract and insured that they received. a fair and linaantial hear:iLn,,; Claimant, himself, consented to the postponement by reqnesting that the hearin; be rescheculed to a, naitually agreeable c=?-~te so that he could. appear :i n Court to ansTer to criminal charges. In Ti~.l.rd Division Award 1'~_L'(, this Board held:




























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        was the C1C.`?,x' :?.:1tt)1`G10I1 of tin carrier. lt appears tU the Division t0 1)t. ill advised 'Go u_!_1 O*4 the loose and -1~Aept use, of the word 's'a~>~pwnded' to trine the who=.e invc":t7-"-.'tary

        .pr d 5gs, e"?"' 'c'i RIQ i'2an ,.__thqre cost L"'.ctu%' 4: ' O _.fov'1? on

        to make whole an _._.. ' i .ovt.' won !_·' t-, -'t1. :iUK of...r_P..cc


    We thus conclude that, tinder the facts a?).l1 circumstances of this case,,

the hearing s-ms held as p~.'c·,~i:,,;i,l_y as y,ossihle following the Me Claimants
were withheld 'from <.'_nt1 tthat the Cla7natuts wore otheywire stiff iV enrly
withheld '_~1 service r ..
apprised of the cl=arse agaa..a.^_.i: the~Tl and rccoive-nG. a fair and Syar'G1a.
_. hearing.

Turnin<; to the merits, we find more than substantial evidence establ°hAng Claimants' ;''wilt. 'i'es tmo1X' of ~:x;(.'1E.'.'i `,.', t':To S;rr):--.c1_al agents was clear 8,'nd convincing that they 6uservcd the ~l<~:i_z:.-rats in a tyiick driving to the locatioil of the freighL car containing the tires, place the tires in the rear bed of the true!, and then begin ~~to drive off the property. It 1,Tas at this point that both of them were a.pi,'Y&ended, and we find that Cnrxiei' has made a prina facA a shOZ1.Yj`- that Clai:xants were guilty as cl:~a.r`;ed.

There remains for us to discuss the approp?"ia:LCness of the discharge penalty. We have consistently held that an act of theft, in any form, if proven, justifies the discharge penalty, and we adhere to that arLuci.ple here.

                        A W A R D


    Claims denied..

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Attest: Lxecu*tx.ve Secretary
National F,ailroad Adjustment Board

Award Tdo. 157T+
Docket No. (462
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MTTOTIU, RAILROAD A.DJUSTIME1tr BO-LJM

By Order of Second Division


Dated J Cr-ui_ca~o, T:T_l_v~.oi.s, tl:Lis 23rd day o-_ June, l9(S.