Form 1 NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD Award No. 8277
SECOND DIVISION Docket No. 8161
2-MP-EW-180
The Second. Division consisted of the regular members and
in addition Referee Kay McMurray when award was rendered.
( System Federation No. 2, Railway Employes'
( Department, A. F. of Z. - C. I. 0.
Parties to Dispute: ( (Electrical Workers)




Dispute: Claim of Employes:



















Findings:

The Second Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record and all the evidence, finds that:

The carrier or carriers and the employe or employes involved in this dispute are respectively carrier and employe within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act as approved Jane 21, 1934.

This Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved herein.



The claimants, S. D. Vanderlinden and P. Z. Gates, were employed by the Carrier as electrician apprentices. At the time of employment,,-they held. two of seven apprentice positions. Due to the needs of the service, claimants were upgraded to fill positions as electricians.
Form 1 Award No. 8277
Page 2 Docket No. 8161
2-MP-EW-180

By a notice dated September 23, 1977, the Carrier informed the parties of a reduction in force to be effective September 30, 1977. The notice reduced the work force by three electricians and four electrician apprentice positions. There is a memorandum of agreement between the parties which provides for the demotion of temporary electricians in reverse order of advancement to their former status as apprentices. It is the contention of the organization that claimants should have been demoted in reverse order to apprentice position and then given proper notice of furlough frown that position. Article II2 of the National Agreement signed June 5, 1962, provides that not less than five working days notice must be given before the abolishment cf a position or reduction in force.

The organization concedes that the notice of furlough as an electrician is in accordance with the agreement. It maintains, however, that they were not properly furloughed as apprentices.

The Carrier takes the position that notice was unnecessary in view of the fact that there were only four apprentice positions available and all four were abolished in the notice. It is obvious that the claimant could not bump into a position which did not exist and no furlough notice was necessary. On the other hand, if seven apprentice positions existed as claimed by the organization, then a demotion in accordance with the agreement was necessary and appropriate handling frown that position was required.

The record does not contain sufficient information for the Board to make a determination regarding the number of positions available. It should be simple" for the parties themselves to make this factual determination and we return that finding of fact to them.



Based on the entire record, if the factual determination of the number of jobs available reveals sufficient positions to accommodate the demotion of claimants to apprentice positions, they will be awarded five days pay in accordance with the notice provisions of the National Agreement. If the number of apprentice positions available was four and all were abolished, the claim is denied.


                            By Order of Second Division


Attest: Executive Secretary
National Railroad Adjustment Board

By

osemarie Brasch - A dministrative Assistant

Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 19th day of March, 1980.