Form 1 NATICiVAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD Award No. 8400
SECOND DIVISION Docket No. 8311L
2-WT-CM-'80
The Second Division consisted of the regular members and in
addition Referee Higdon C, Roberts., Jr. when award was rendered.



Parties to Dispute: ~ (Carmen)



Dispute: Claim of Employes:





Findings:

The Second Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record and 8,11 the evidence, finds that:

The carrier or carriers and the employe or employes involved in this dispute are respectively carrier and employe within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act as approved June 21, 193+.

This Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved herein.



The record is clear that the claimant (Mr. Forest) was guilty of loitering, He was standing with two other employes in a car to which he was not assigned.. He should have~returned to his proper duty station when told to by his supervisor, Ms. Williams. When Ms. Williams returned 10 minutes later with Mr. Best, and. he (Mr, Best) ordered the claimant to go to his car, and he still didn't move, this was insubordination. However, Mr. Forest never back-talked, or in any manner, was overtly insubordinate. The manner of the insubordination and the relatively brief loitering time, combined with Ms. Williams' fairly casual initial order to the claimant to return to his assigned car bear consideration. In light of this, and considering the claimant's clean record and normally good work, I find. the penalty excessive and order the suspension reduced to 5 day-as'




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Attest: Executive Secretary
National Railroad Adjustment Board

Award No. $1.E,pp
Docket No. 8311
2 WT-CM-t80

NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD

By Order of Second Division


By nor ioe-~
R e Brasch - Administrative Assistant

Dated at C icago, Illinois, this 23rd day of July, 1980.