Form 1 NATIONAL RAIIROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD Award No. 8451
SECOND DIVISION Docket No. 8379
2-CR-EW-180
The Second Division consisted of the regular members and in
addition Referee John J. Mikrut, Jr. when award was rendered.



Parties to Dispute: ( (Electrical Workers)




Dispute: Claim of Employes:







Findings:

The Second Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record and a17. the evidence, finds that:

The carrier or carriers and the employe or employes involved in this dispute are respectively carrier and employe within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act as approved June 21, 1934.

This Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved herein.



The fact situation in this case is reasonably clear. At approximately 9:`50 A.M. on February 13, 1978, claimant - while on duty and under pay - became involved in an altercation with a fellow employe. The record describes it as a pushing, shoving, grabbing, name calling episode. This altercation was directly witnessed by two (2) other employes. Claimant was permitted to remain in service and continued his assignment until 12:30 P.M. that date when he was withheld from service. Charges were made against claimant and a hearing was scheduled to be held on February 16, 1978. At the request of the representative organization, the hearing was postponed until February 23, 1978. After the hearing was completed, claimant was returned to service. By notice dated May 2, 1978, he was assessed a thirty
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(30) day suspension which was not served because of the probationary agreement between the parties applicable to disciplinary suspensions.

In presenting this dispute to our Board, petitioner has advanced several procedural arguments, among which are:







Carrier argues that the altercation was a "major offense" as contemplated by Rule 6-A-1(b) which reads:



Carrier correctly argues that petitioner's contention relative to the representative not receiving a copy of the hearing transcript is not factually correct in that the local chairman did receive a copy of the transcript in compliance with the applicable provisions of the Rules Agreement.

Carrier also correctly contends that the use of tape machines to record hearings which are subsequently transcribed to paper and distributed to the interested parties does not violate any provision of the Rules Agreement.

We have reviewed the entire record in this dispute and have considered the arguments advanced by the parties. It is our conclusion that claimant was, in fact, responsible for instigating and engaging in an altercation with fellow employe Wertz. The hearing record contains more than substantial evidence to support the charge as made. We will not alter the disciplinary suspension as assessed.

However, the withholding of claimant from service pending the hearing is ,3n entirely different matter. The Rule which permits this type of action restricts it to a "major offense". We are not implying that an on-property fight between employes could not qualify as a "major offense". We are saying that the fact situation in this case - including claimant's continuation in service for more than two (2) hours after the altercation - is indicative that in this instance a "major offense" situation did not exist.

Petitioner has asked that claimant be compensated for the full eleven (11) days on which he was held out of service pending the hearing. Yet, the record shows that petitioner's action caused the out of service time to be extended by seven (7) days. Clearly Carrier cannot be held responsible for this period of time.
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We, therefore, order that claimant be compensated for the time lost during the period February 13, to and including February 16, 1978. The claim for the remainder of the out of service time is denied.



Claim for removal of the suspension is denied. Claim for payment for the out of service time is sustained to the extent outlined in the Findings.


                            By Order of Second Division


Attest: Executive Secretary
National Railroad Adjustment Board

      emarie Brasch - Admi.n strative Assistant


Dated t Chicago, Illinois, this Ist day of October, 1980.