Form 1 NATIONAL RAILRQID ADJUSTMENT BOARD Award No. 8690
SECOND DIVISION Docket No. 8522
2-SLSW-MA-181
The Second Division consisted of the regular members and in
addition Referee Herbert L. Marx, Jr. when award was rendered.

International Association of Machinists and
Parties to Dispute: ( Aerospace Workers
(


Dispute: Claim of Employes;












Findings:

The Second Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record and all the evidence, finds that:

The carrier or carriers and the employe or employes involved in this dispute are respectively carrier and employe within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act as approved June 21, 1934.

This Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved herein.



The organization argues that the investigative hearing provided in this dispute did not meet the requirements of being "prompt", as the organization alleges is required under Rule 24. The hearing was held 16 days after the incident in question. The Board does not find this violative of Rule 24, nor did the timing of the hearing (or the apparent mix-up as to a proposed postponement) adversely affect the Claimant in his right to defend his position.

Following the hearing, the Claimant was given 30 demerits on a charge of "being insubordinate when you left company property after your supervisor instructed you to the contrary". Review of the records by the Board shows that this charge is not in fact supported by the testimony. Claimant requested permission to go "to town" during his meal period. It was this request which was denied. There is no evidence that Claimant went "to town" in defiance of his supervisor. The best evidence is that, instead, he went to "the hump" and the

"rip track" to obtain coffee and that doing so was not contrary to any supervisory
Form 1 Page 2

Award No. 8690
Docket No. 8522
2-SLSW-MA-181

order. On his return trip the record shows he was apparently off the Carrier's property, but there is no proof to contradict the Claimant's statement that this was accidental and even unknowing, incident to his returning from "the hump". Based on any reasonable reading of the hearing record, the Carrier has failed to meet the burden of proof required in such cases.

The Organization also claims pay for the employe because he was "directed" to appear at an investigative hearing and was not compensated for such time. None of the rules cited in the claim bears directly on this issue. Nor does Rule 22, Grievances, specify pay for employe attendance at an investigative hearing. There is some reference to no loss of pay for "up to three committeemen" in conference; this cannot be stretched to include the Claimant. Absent specific rule provision to the contrary, attendance at any investigative hearing cannot be defined as working time -- regardless of whether the employe under investigation is found guilty or innocent of the charge being investigated.

A WAR D

Part I of claim sustained.

Part II of claim denied.

Attest: Executive Secretary
National Railroad Adjustment Board

NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD

By Order of Second Division


--7 osemarie Brasch - Administrative Assistant

Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 29th day of April, 1981.