Form 1 NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD Award No. 11124
SECOND DIVISION Docket No. 11216-I
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The Second Division consisted of the regular members and in
addition Referee Paul C. Carter when award was rendered.


Parties to Dispute:


Dispute: Claim of Employes:

The purpose of this hatter is to appeal the dismissal of Hardie White (hereinafter "the Employee") from the employ of Burlington-Northern Railroad. The dismissal letter is dated October 10, 1984 and was received by the employee on or about October 12, 1984.




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FINDINGS:
The Second Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record
and all the evidence, finds that:

The carrier or carriers and the employe or employes involved in this dispute are respectively carrier and employes within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act as approved June 21, 1934.

This Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved herein.



The Claimant herein was, at the time of the first occurrence herein, employed by the Carrier as a General Foreman. While working as a General Foreman he retained seniority previously acquired under the Collective Bargaining Agreement covering Carmen. He had been in the service of the Carrier since 1971. On September 20, 1984, Claimant was notified by Carrier's Chief Mechanical officer that, effective that date, he was relieved of his duties as General Foreman Suburban at 14th Street, Burlington Northern Railroad Company, Chicago, Illinois. On the same date, September 20, 1984, Claimant was notified to appear for an Investigation on September 21, 1984.

Also on the wane date, September 20, 1984, Claimant filed written request that the Investigation Hearing be rescheduled for Friday, September 28, 1984, which request was granted by the Carrier, and the Investigation was rescheduled to begin at 10:00 A.M., September 28, 1984. On September 21, 1-984, Claimant requested copies of invoices and documents, and the names of witnesses to be used at the Investigation Hearing. On the same date, September 21, 1984, the Carrier's Chief Mechanical Officer responded to Claimant advising him that the Carrier was not obligated to provide such information.

While working as a General Foreman Claimant was not subject to any Collective Bargaining Agreement and served at the discretion of the Carrier. He could properly be removed from such position without a Hearing or Investigation. However, as the charge of September 20, 1984, was of such nature as to possibly affect his seniority and employment as a Cayman, it was proper that the Carrier to afford him a Hearing or Investigation in accordance with the Discipline Rule of the Carmen's Agreement, which reads:

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"Rule 35. (a) ,?fin employe who has been in the
service more than sixty (60) days, or whose appli
cation has been formally approved, shall not be
disciplined without a fair hearing by designated
officer of the Carrier. Suspension in proper cases
pending hearing, which shall be prompt, shall not
be deemed a violation of this rule. At a reason
able time prior to the hearing, such employee and
his duly authorized representative, will be
apprised in writing of the precise charge and given
a reasonable opportunity to secure the presence of
necessary witnesses. If it is found that an
employee has been unjustly suspended or dismissed
from the service, such employee shall be reinstated
with his seniority rights unimpaired and compen
sated for wage less, if any, less amounts earned in
other employment, resulting from said suspension or
dismissal."

"Duly authorized representative" as used in the above quoted Rule, means the authorized representative of the Collective Bargaining unit representing the craft on Carrier's property.

At the Hearing or Investigation conducted on September 28, 1984, Claimant appeared with his Attorney who stated that his purpose in attending the Investigation was as a Representative of Claimant in the capacity of personal attorney, he also stated that he was not an employe of the Carrier and was not an authorized Union Representative. The Attorney was then informed by the Conducting Officer that it was the policy of the Carrier that a Representative of an employe in a Labor Hearing was -restricted to either an employe of the Carrier or an authorized Union Representative; that the Attorney may remain in the Hearing as an observer, but would not be permitted to counsel or represent Claimant during the Hearing. The Attorney then stated that he and the Claimant were attending the Hearing under protest.

The matter of outside attorneys attempting to -represent employe in on-property disciplinary Hearings or Investigations, is not one of first impression before this Board. In Third Division Award No. 25000 it was held:


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See also Third Division Awards Nos. 24998, 24999. In Second Division Award
No. 6381 it was held:



A copy of the Transcript of the Investigation conducted on September 28, 1984, has been made a part of the record before the Board.

On September 28, 1984, Claimant was notified to attend another Investigation scheduled to begin at 11:00 A.M., October 5, 1984, for alleged failure to report a traffic accident. The Claimant acknowledged receipt of the Notice on September 28, 1984. The Investigation scheduled for October 5, 1984, was postponed to October 8, 1984, at which time it was conducted. A copy of the Transcript of the Investigation conducted on October 8, 1984, has also been made a part of the record.

On October 10, 1984, Claimant was dismissed from Carrier's service as a result of the Investigations conducted on September 28, 1984, and October 8, 1984 as stated in the Claim quoted above.

On October 4, 1984, Claimant requested that he be permitted to exer
cise his seniority as a Cayman at Memphis, Tennessee, which request was denied "r''
on the same date:



The Transcript of the Investigation conducted on September 28, 1984, contained substantial evidence in support of the charge of September 20, 1984, against Claimant. The "substantial evidence" Rule has been set forth by the Supreme Court of the United States, as follows:




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In the Investigation the Claimant declined to review material submitted in evidence or to answer questions concerning alleged improper purchases on the ground that he was denied representation by his Attorney. He refused to make any explanation of his activities, although given every opportunity to do so. In Third Division Award No. 19558 it was held:





In Second Division Award No. 9314 it was held:



The burden of the Carrier to supply substantial evidence in support of the charge of September 20, 1984, was amply met. Subsequent to the Investigation or Hearing, the Claimant's Attorney, in his appeal on the property, enclosed what he termed "a copy of a transcript of a 'pre-hearing' which he said took place immediately prior to the investigation of September 28, 1984." A copy of the same document has also been submitted to this Board by the Claimant's Attorney, with his Submission in behalf of Claimant. One of the principles adhered to by the Eoard is that in discipline cases the parties to such disputes and the Board are restricted to the evidence introduced at the Hearing or Investigation, and the record may not properly be added to after the Hearing or Investigation closes. (Third Division Award Nos. 25907 and 24356.) Under this principle the "transcript of a pre hearing" may not be considered.
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In the Investigation conducted on October 8, 1984, on the charge of September 28, 1984, there was substantial evidence, including Claimant's statement, that Claimant did not comply with Carrier Rules concerning the reporting of an automobile accident.

No Rule has been cited prohibiting the Carrier from combining the two Investigations into a single disciplinary notice and penalty.

We point out that at a Hearing before this Board, with the Referee present, on October 6, 1986, the Claimant and Mrs. Shirley I. White appeared, with their Attorney. The Carrier was also represented. Claimant, their Attorney, and the Carrier Representative actively participated in the Hearing.

Based upon the entire record, there is no proper basis for the Board to interfere with the discipline imposed by the Carrier. Acts of dishonesty usually result in dismissal. In Third Division Award No. 22745 it was held:



The Board may have been justified in dismissing the entire dispute because of no conference on the property, but considering all the issues involved, we have chosen to dispose of the dispute on its merits.






                            By Order of Second Division


Attest: _

        Nancy i

            . ver - Executive Secretary


Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 7th day of January 1987.