(Brotherhood of Railway, Airline and Steamship Clerks, (Freight Handlers, Express and Station Employees PARTIES TO DISPUTE: (Norfolk and Western Railway Company ((Involving employees on lines formerly ( operated by the Wabash Railroad Company)



(1) Carrier violated the provisions of the Schedule for Clerks, effective May 1, 1953, when on June 8, 1971, it arbitrarily, capriciously and is a flagrant abuse of discretionary authority, dismissed Clerk L. J. Krupa from the service of the Carrier based on unproven charges in violation of th" nrnvisions of Rule 28 of the Schedule for Clerks.





(4) Carrier will now be required to pay interest on all time lost at the rate of one percent compounded monthly.



                    Docket Number CL-19733


As a result of this incident Krupa was advised by Supt. H. C. Scott on May 27, 1971 to report for an investigation on June 2, 1971 in connection with a charge by the carrier of the alleged unauthorized removal of television sets from car #86563. Following the investigation on June 8, 1971 the Carrier advised the claimant, Krupa, that he was terminated. The Organization appealed the termination on the ground that there was not an impartial investigation because Supt. Scott had allowed all witnesses to remain in the interrogating room to listen to all the testimony, over the protest of the claimant's representative. And furthermore, the interrogating officer asked leading questions of the carrier's witnesses.

This Board has held on innumerable occasions in the past that absent a specific rule in the contract between the parties requiring sequestration of witnesses, the Carrier's failure to exclude witnesses from the hearing room until called to testify, did not deny claimant a fair and impartial hearing. (Awards Nos. 5061 (Ives). In the context of this case the exclusion of witnesses while not testifying is discretionary.

This Board's review of the facts in this case is limited to the determination of whether the original hearing officer was convinced by substantial evidence and was thrust of the testimony that the claimant, Krupa, had not reported to anyone in authority at the Boatyard, other than Carman Dubanik who was admittedly with him at the scene, that the car door was open or that the television sets were out of the car. Krupa's claim that he attempted to notify others in authority at another terminal six miles away was not supported by any witness.

While there may be a conflict between the testimony of the parties, it is not for this Board to resolve that conflict. Where the evidence adduced at the property is substantial and the decision was not arbitrary or capricious, then the decision of the Carrier, both as to the question of guilt and the amount of discipline to be invoked, should not be interfered with.

        FINDINGS: The Third Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record and all the evidence, finds and holds:


        That the parties waived oral hearing;


That the Carrier and the Employes involved in this dispute are respectively Carrier and Employes within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act, as approved June 21, 1934;
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                    Docket Number CL-19733


That this Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved herein; and

        That the Agreement was not violated.


                    A W A R D


        Claim denied.


                        NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD

                        By Order of Third Division


ATTEST:
        Executive Secretary


Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 17th day of November 1972.