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              NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD

              Award Number 19679

              THIRD DIVISION Docket Number MW-19852


                John H. Dorsey, Referee


(Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employee PARTIES TO DISPUTE:
              (The Akron, Canton & Youngstown Railroad Company


STATEMENT OF CLAIM: Claim of the System Committee of the Brotherhood that:

(1) The dismissal of Machine Operator C. D. Jones from service as of June 21, 1971 for allegedly violating "Rules 427 and 448 of the Operating Rules of the Akron, Canton & Youngstown Railroad Company" was improper, without just and suffici of the Agreement.

(2) Machine Operator C. D. Jones be reinstated with seniority, vacation and all other rights uni loss suffered in accordance with Rule 21.

OPINION OF BOARD: The facts relating to Claimant's dismissal, succinctly
stated, are that he was an Operator on a 16-Tool Switch Electromatic Tamper. On May 28, 1971, during movement of the Tamper, it derailed. Tamper was reraile was called upon to commence tamping the "tamping head and tamping bars would neither go up or down:" A mechanic examined the machine and reported damage to the tamping heads and tamping bars. The record contains sufficient evidence, of probative value, that Claimant by oversight failed to secure the Tamping heads during movement of the machine and this permitted the Tamping heads to drift down catching on the guard rail and derailed the Tamper.

We find that: (1) Claimant was afforded due process; (2) there is substantial evidence that the securing of the Tamping heads was a responsibility of the Claimant. excessive. Therefore, we will award that Claimant be reinstated with seniority, vacation and all other rights unimpaired; but as to compensation for wages lost Carrier pay to Claimant the amount of wages he would have earned from Carrier absent his dismissal from service until the date of his reinstatement less what he actually earned from other sources during that period.

        FINDINGS: The Third Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record and all the evidence, finds and holds:


        That the parties waived oral hearing;


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                    Award Number 19679 Page 2

                    Docket Number MW-19852


That the Carrier and the Employee involved in this dispute are respectively Carrier and Employee within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act, as approved June 21, 1934;

That this Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction over the dispute involved herein; and

        That the Agreement was violated.


                    A W A R D


Carrier to reinstate Claimant to service with rights and compensation as prescribed in the Opinion, supra.

                            NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD

                            By Order of Third Division


ATTEST:/
Executive Secretary

Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 23rd day of March 1973.
                                  Serial No. 270


              NATIONAL R&na= ADJUSTMENT BOARD


                    TEIRD DIVISION


            INTERPRETATION N0. 1 TO AWARD N0. 19679


                  DOCRET N0. MW-19852


NAME OF ORGANIZATION: Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employee

NAME OP CABRIE& Akron, Canton and Youngstown Railroad Company

Upon application of the representatives of the Employee involved is the above Award, that this Division interpret the same is light of the dispute between the parties as to the messing sad application, as provided for is Section 3, First (m) of the Railway Labor Act, as approved June 21, 1934, the following interpretation is made:

In the Award, which was issued March 23, 1973, we found: (1) Claimant was afforded dun process; (2) Carrier's finding that Claimant was derelict is his duties was supported by substantial evidence; but, (3) the discipline assessed by Carrier, dismissal from service, was excessive. Having found the dismissal to be as excessive penalty we procnded to find, . is the exercise of our jurisdiction sad judgment, that the following would constitute a reasonable penalty:

        ....we will award that Claimant be reinstated with seniority, vacation and all other rights unimpaired; but as to compensation for wages lost Carrier pay to Claimant the amount of wages he would have earned from Carrier absent dismissal from service until the date of his reinstatement less what he actually earned from other sources during that period.


The Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employes did, under date of February 8, 1974, petition this Board to interpret the Award. The question presented:

        Does the awardnumt of "compensation for wages lost" is Award 19679 contemplate that the claimant shall be made whole for any money he was required to spend for medical and hospital services or other benefits which would otherwise have bean covered under Travelers' Group Policy GA-23000 during the period the claimant was with-held from service?

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        It is MW's position that:


        ...the abovestated question is properly answerable only is the affirmative. To hold otherwise would mesa that a second deduction, not ordered by the award, would be made from the "compensation for wages lost" by the claimant. This would be equivalent to the amou hospital payments required of the claimant while out of service but which would have been paid by Th had not been excessively disciplined by dismissal.


        Travelers Group Policy No. GA-23000 is a contract between the Travelers Insurance Company, this nati which provides protection for railroad employer sad their dependents against the costly expense of medical care and hospitalization, including maternity benefits. The premiums due under said policy are paid is their entirety by the Carriers. Such premium payments have been co Divisions. The Carrier Members of the Second Division expressly conceded that the insurance benefits under Travelers Group Policy GA-23000 era regarded as wage equivalents (Carrier's Members Reply to the concurring and dissenting opinion filed by the Labor Members to Second Division Award 3883).


Carrier's position can be adequately summed up by quoting its letter to the General Chairman, dated
        This has reference to our telephone conversation on October 17, 1973, regarding health and welfare benefits to reinstated employee Carlos Jones.


        As explained to you, it would not be possible to provide medical care benefits is such a case under Contract GA 23000. If as employee is dismissed his employment relationship terminates and his ins terminates immediately, see Article VI, Part A, 1. C, and Article VI, Part B, 1.C(b). Moreover, premiums are payable to Travelers is relation to only those months when an employee readers compensated service (or, if he does not render compensated service, receives vacation pay).

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cm be paid for as employee who has been dismissed and is reinstated after the lapse of a calendar month or more is which he does not work. And, aside from theca premiums of the policy contract, from a practical standpoint, the policy contract cannot be administered on any such basis as would make as employee's insured status in a past month depend on whether he is reinstated at soma time is the future. (Emphasis supplied.)

The labor organizations have recognized these considerations and have provided a means for emplo appeals era pending to preserve their insured status. The Order of Railway Conductors cad Brakeman and the Brotherhood of Railroad Trai~ expressly recognized them when, is 1964, they took out Travelers Group Policy GA 696543, covering certain furloughed and retired employees, c others who were not covered by Group Policy Contract CA 871234. Their leaflet describing the policy stated is part:

    'An employee whose insurance wader Group Policy Contract GA 871234 is terminated due to termination of his employment, but whose status is being considered is proceedings, under the Railway Labor Act may enroll for the benefits described herein for himself and/or his dependents, provided ha corolla and makes remittance direct to The Travelers Insurance Company w fifteen days of the date of termination of his employment:


Although leaflets describing Travelers Getup Policy CA 23111 in its earlier years did not contain such a statement, I understand the privilege of insuring radar that group policy was extended discharged non-operating employees. And, is 1968, whey the several railroad health sad welfare pleas wars consolidated, and on the organization's past Group Policy GA 696543 and the c policies which the other operating employee organizations became parties to GA 23111, it was revised to contain laagnaga substantially identical to that quote
Inasmuch as Group Policy GA 23111 is available to discharged employees as a moans of maintaining their insurance pending appeal, as employee would not grounds is asking for retroactive payments.

Attached is copy of list of awards rendered by the National Railroad Adjustment Board covering this subject.
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Upon consideration of the record as a whole; the Awards sad other authorities cited by the parties; sad, the Submission of each of them addressed to the question presented, we find and hold:

I. If as employs is dismissed for just cause, his employment relationship terminates and his insurance accordingly terminates.

II. If an employs is dismissed by Carrier and (1) the employe timely files claim, alleging wrongful dismissal, which is properly processed on the property and after which this Board's jurisdiction is invoked (Section 3 First (i) of the Rai claim and orders Carrier to reinstate the employe, the employment relationship is not severed during to the date of his reinstatement; then, (3) a wrongfully dismissed employs is entitled to the Agreement benefits which would accrue to him during the period ha was wrongfully held out of service.

III. This Board is its Award found that the Claimant therein was wrongfully dismissed by Carrier and found that a reasonable measure of discipline was the applicatio "payment alloyed for the assigned working hours actually lost" as provided for is Rule 21 and as prayed for in paragraph (2) of the Claim. Other than that measure of discipline all other rights which Claimant would have enjoyed as as employee during the period he was wrongfully held out of service did, under our Award, stood and steeds unimpaired -- this includes his insurance coverage under Rule 65 - HEALTH AND WELFARE PLAN.

IV. Since this Board found that Claimant was wrongfully dismissed from service, ipso facto, Carrier's termination of his insurance under Rule 65 was wrongful and Carrier must bear the liability attached to its action.

Far the foregoing reasons the question presented is answered is the affirmative.

Referee John H. Dorsey, who sat with the Division, as a neutral member, whey Award No. 19679 was adopted, also participated with the Division in making this interpr
                        NI

                        ATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUS71MM BOARD

                        By Order of Third Division


ATTEST:
        Executive Secretary


Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 6th day of September 1974.
                                      CORRECTED


                                    Serial No. 270


              NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD


                    THIRD DIVISION


              INTERPRETATION N0. 1 TO AWARD N0. 19679


                    DOCKET N0. MW-19852


NAME OF ORGANIZATION: Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employee

NAME OF CARRIER: Akron, Canton and Youngstown Railroad Company

Upon application of the representatives of the Employee involved is the above Award, that this Division interpret the same is light of the dispute between the parties as to the meaning and application, as provided for is Section 3, First (m) of the Railway Labor Act, as approved June 21, 1934, the following interpretation is made:

In the Award, which was issued March 23, 1973, we found: (1) Claimant was afforded due process; (2) Carrier's finding that Claimant was derelict in his duties was supported by substantial evidence; but, (3) the discipline assessed by Carrier, dismissal from service, was excessive. Having found the dismissal to be an excessive penalty we proceded to find, in the exercise of our jurisdiction and judgment, that the following would constitute a reasonable penalty:

        ....we will award that Claimant be reinstated with seniority, vacation and all other rights unimpaired; but as to compensation for wages lost Carrier pay to Claimant the amount of wages he would have earned from Carrier absent dismissal from service until the date of his reinstatement less what he actually earned from other sources during that period.


The Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employee did, under date of February 8, 1974, petition this Board to interpret the Award. The question presented:

        Does the awardment of "compensation for wages lost" is Award 19679 contemplate that the claimant shall be made whole for any money he was required to spend for medical and hospital services or other benefits which would otherwise have been covered under Travelers' Group Policy GA-23000 during the period the claimant was with-held from service?

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        It is MW's position that:


        ~..the abovestated question is properly answerable only in the affirmative. To hold otherwise would mean that a second deduction, not ordered by the award, would be made from the "compensation for wages lost" by the claimant. This would be equivalent to the amou hospital payments required of the claimant while out of service but which would have been paid by Th had not been excessively disciplined by dismissal.


        Travelers Group Policy No. GA-23000 is a contract between the Travelers Insurance Company, this nati nation's National Railroad Labor Organizations which provides protection for railroad employes sad their dependents against the costly expense of medical care and hospitalization, including maternity benefits. The premiums due under said policy are paid is their entirety by the Carriers. Such premium payments have been co Divisions. The Carrier Members of the Second Division expressly conceded that the insurance benefits under Travelers Group Policy GA-23000 are regarded as wale equivalents (Carrier's Members Reply to the concurring and dissenting opinion filed by the Labor Members to Second Division Award 3883).


Carrier's position can be adequately summed up by quoting its letter to the General Chairman, dated
        This has reference to our telephone conversation on October 17, 1973, regarding health and welfare benefits to reinstated employee Carlos Jones.


        As explained to you, it would not be possible to provide medical care benefits in such a case under Contract GA 23000. If an employee is dismissed, his employment relationship terminates and his in terminates immediately, see Article VI, Part A, 1. C, and Article VI, Part B, 1.C(b). Moreover, premiums are payable to Travelers is relation to only those months when an employee renders compensated service (or, if he does not render compensated service, receives vacation pay).

                                            Page 3


              can be paid for an employee who has been dismissed and is reinstated after the lapse of a calendar month or more in which he does not work. And, aside from these premiums of the policy contract, from a practical standpoint, the policy contract cannot be administered on any such basis as would make an employee's insured status in a past month depend on whether he is reinstated at soma time is the future. (Emphasis supplied.)


              The labor organizations have recognized these considerations and have provided a means for emplo appeals are pending to preserve their insured status. The Order of Railway Conductors and Brakemen and the Brotherhood of Railroad Trainmen expressly recognized them when, in 1964, they took out Travelers Group Policy GA 696543, covering certain furloughed and retired employees, c others who were not covered by Group Policy Contract GA 871234. Their leaflet describing the policy stated in part:


                  'An employee whose insurance under Group Policy Contract GA 871234 is terminated due to termination of his employment, but whose status is being considered is proceedings, under the Railway Labor Act may enroll for the benefits described herein for himself and/or his dependents, provided he enrolls and makes remittance direct to The Travelers Insurance Company w fifteen days of the date of termination of his employment.'


              Although leaflets describing Travelers Group Policy GA 23111 in its earlier years did not contain such a statement, I understand the privilege of insuring under that group policy was extended discharged non-operating employees. And, is 1968, when the several railroad health and welfare plans ware consolidated, and on the organization's past Group Policy GA 696543 an policies which the other operating employee organizations became parties to GA 23111, it was revised to contain language substantially identical to that quote


              Inasmuch as Group Policy GA 23111 is available to discharged employees as a means of maintaining their insurance pending appeal, an employee would not grounds in asking for retroactive payments.


              Attached is copy of list of awards rendered by the National Railroad Adjustment Board covering this subject.


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      Upon consideration of the record as a whole: the Awards sad other authorities cited by the parties; and, the Submission of each oJ them addressed to the question presented, we find and hold:


      I. If an employe is dismissed for just cause, his employment relationship terminates and his insurance accordingly terminates.


        II. If an employe is dismissed by Carrier and (1) the employe timely files claim, alleging wrongful dismissal, which is properly processed on the property and after which this Board's jurisdiction is invoked (Section 3 First (i) of the Rai claim and orders Carrier to reinstate the employe, the employment relationship is not severed during to the date of his reinstatement; then, (3) a wrongfully dismissed employe is entitled to the Agreement benefits which would accrue to him during the period he was wrongfully held out of service.


      III. This Board in its Award found that the Claimant therein was wrongfully dismissed by Carrier and found that a reasonable measure of discipline was the applicatio "payment allowed for the assigned working hours actually lost" as provided for in Rule 21 and as prayed for is paragraph (2) of the Claim. Other than that measure of discipline all other rights which Claimant would have enjoyed as as employee during the period he was wrongfully held out of service did, under our Award, stood and stands unimpaired -- this includes his insurance coverage under Rule 65 - HEALTH AND WELFARE PLAN.


        IV. Since this Board found that Claimant was wrongfully dismissed from service, ipso facto, Carrier's termination of his insurance under Rule 65 was wrongful and Carrier moat bear the liability attached to its action.


        For the foregoing reasons the question presented is answered in the affirmative.


      Referee John H. Dorsey, who sat with the Division, as a neutral member, when Award No. 19679 was adopted, also participated with the Division in making this interpr


                              NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD

                              By Order of Third Division


        ATTEST: ~ ~. ~~r'Q-

        Executive Secretary


        Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 6th day of September 1974.


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        CARRIE.Tt 6~1BMS' DISSENT TO I21TE'iPR.,FTATION N0. 1 TO

        _ AWARD N0. 19Cs7<j - DOCKET 110- (dW-19852 - REFEREE DOASL^L


The organization petitioned the Board for an interpretation of the fol. lowing question:

            "Does the awardment of 'co^rpensation for wages lost' in Award 1679 contemplate that the claimant shall be made whole for arty money he eras required to spend for medical and hospital services or other benefits which would otherwise have been covered under Travelers' Group Policy GA-23000 during the period the claimant was with-held from service?"


For the reasons set forth in the Interpretation, which go beyond the question raised, tae question was answered in the affirmative by the Neutral.

There is no provision in the Agreement which supports such an allowance.

        The Opinion of Board in Award No. 19679 stated:


            but as to compensation for wages lost Carrier pay to Claimant the a^:ount of wages he mould have earned from Carrier absent his dismissal from service until the date of his reinstatement less what he actually earned from other sources during that period."


Numerous prior Awards of this Board, which adhere to the principle that medical and hospital expenses are not embraced.within the term "wages lost" were cited by the Carrier.

This erroneous interpretation is contrary to the well-established prece dent of this Board and is not supported by the contract. As was so aptly stated in a prior Award:

            "Where, as here, the Board is confronted with a long line of precedents which first postulate and then maintain a consistent interpretation of contract language we should refrain from disturbing what ought to be a settled matter,"


            We dissent.

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