NATIONAL
RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT BOARD
THIRD DIVISION Docket Number
CL-21029
Joseph A. Sickles, Referee
(Brotherhood of Railway, Airline and
( Steamship Clerks, Freight Handlers,
( Express and Station Employee
PARTIES TO DISPUTE:
(Robert W. Blanchette, Richard C. Bond
( and John H. McArthur, Trustees of
( the Property of Penn Central Transportation
( Company, Debtor
STATEMENT OF CLAIM: Claim of the System Committee of the Brotherhood,
GL-7747, that:
(a) The Carrier violated the Rules Agreement, effective February 1, 1968, particularly Rule 6-A-
days suspension on Edward Fransko, Assistant Crew Dispatcher, Conway,
Pennsylvania.
(b) Claimant Edward Fransko's record be cleared of the charges
brought against him on September
5,
1973.
(c) Claimant Edward Fransko be compensated for wage loss sustained during the period out of serv
OPINION
OF
HOARD: On September 7, 1973, Claimsnt was instructed to
attend an investigation concerning:
"Being insubordinate in that you refused to follow instructions of Trainmaster R. A. Bartoletti
language in your conversation with him at approximately
7:40 P.m., Wednesday, September
5,
1973, during your tour
of duty as Assistant Crew Dispatcher, 3:00 P.M, to 11:00 P.M.,
Convoy, Pennsylvania."
Subsequent to investigation, Claimant was assessed a thirty (30)
day suspension from service (with time held out of service to apply), however, he was returned to se
matter of "leniency") and the unserved portion was held in abeyance, to be
served only if he committed an offense for which discipline was imposed.
We do not concur with Claimant's assertion that the Carrier
failed to describe the "exact offense", nor do we agree that the lack of
use of profanity has a bearing on the charge of "abusive language".
Regardless of dictionary definitions, in the context of labor-management
disputes, an employe may be considered to be abusive without regard to use
of profanity.
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At the investigation, Claimant made inquiry concerning his being
held out of service pending the investigation; which inquiry was answered.
In any event, that matter has not been pursued to this Hoard.
Carrier's contentions of wrong doing are expressed by the testimony of the Trainmaster:
"A. So about fifteen minutes later Mr. Fransko came up.
I was on the phone at the time and he stood by my desk.
When I got off the phone I got up and I started to tell
him that when I call down there I didn't want him to be
telling me that he is too busy to talk to
me,
and before
I could get out what I wanted to tell him, he was holler
ing at me at the same time telling me that when he's
busy he don't have to talk to me and he'll hang up on me
anytime he wants to and I was telling him 'Hey, when I
tell you that you're not going to hang up on me and I
want to talk to you, that is what you're going to do or
you're going to come off the job.' And he told me that
he didn't care if I gave him
60
days off and he didn't
need to work and said he'd still bang up on me any time
that he wanted to, so then I told him he was out of serv
ice. Then Mr. Fransko started down the steps, he got
half-way down and I told him to come back, I wasn't
finished with him, I wanted to give him an out-of-service
notice the way it should be done, on paper, and he told
me that he was out of service and he didn't have to talk
to me and he walked out the door.
Q. Mr. Bartoletti, this conversation that transpired between
you and Mr. Fransko, were you alone with Mr. Franeko in
your office?
A. No sir, Mr. Dripps was the second trick Power Desk Yardmaster."
Claimant's version is as follows:
"A. Yes sir. Mr. Bartoletti called me on the phone and was
asking 'where are the jitney drivers that he needed one
to run bills from the IBM room to
#4
hump. I told Mr.
Bartoletti that I had no jitneys available and while we
were talking two jitney drivers came in the room. I
started to tell Mr. Bartoletti 'Waits mirnite, I think
there is a jitney driver here now.' Before I could
finish this all I said was 'Wait a minute, I'--- and
Mr. Bartoletti screamed at me over the phone telling me
wait a minute, who in the hell do you think you are'.
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"At this point him and I got into an argument over the
way he was screaming at me over the phone. So I hung
up on Mr. Bartoletti, At the same time Mr. D. P. DeLauter walked into the crew room and was hollerin
about the two jitney drivers that had just walked in.
When I told Mr. D. P. DeLauter that they had just come
in he turned around-and started for the IBM room, at
the same time calling me a 'little bastard', which I
don't think is proper for a supervisor of the Penn
Central to say to another employee. I have witnesses
to this.
Q. Mr. Fransko, is that the extent of the conversation
you had with Mr. Bartoletti?
A. No sir, it was not. Mr. Bartoletti ordered me up to
the Ivory Tower, which I immediately done. It wasn't
15
or 20 minutes, it was more like
5
minutes. When I
arrived up in the Ivory Tower Mr. Bartoletti was talking
on the telephone and telling someone that nobody is ever
going to hang up on him. After he was done he proceeded
to scream and holler like a maniac and I told him that
any time anyone screams and curses over the phone at me
that I would hang up on them. He in turn said that he
was going to have me in for a trial and I did tell Mr.
Bartoletti I didn't care if he did give me 60 days because I had done nothing wrong. He kept on scre
and hollering and I told him that I didn't have to take
this from him over the phone or up in the office, and
that I would hang up on him again if he screamed and
cursed and hollered at me over the phone. Mr. Bartoletti
then told me that I was out of service. I, in turn, left
and went home. That is all I have to say."
Our review of the record leads us to conclude that the Yardmaster's
testimony confirms that of the Trainmaster and we have noted that he testified that Claimant said "I
It is well established that this Board is not constituted to resolve conflicts of evidence. We find
finding of guilt and no showing of arbitrary or capricious conduct.
Even considering Claimant's long service and prior good record,
we cannot conclude that the quantum of discipline is excessive.
FINDINGS: The Third Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole record
and all the evidence, finds and holds:
That the parties waived oral hearing;
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That the Carrier and the Employee involved in this dispute are
respectively Carrier and Employee within the meaning of the Railway Labor
Act, as approved June 21,
1934;
That this Division of the Adjustment Hoard has jurisdiction over
the dispute involved herein; and,
That the Agreement was not violated.
A W A R D
Claim denied.
NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTMENT HOARD
By Order of Third Division
ATTEST: (/V (/~
Executive Secretary
Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 14th day of September 1976.