ttATIODAL RAILROAD ADJUSTf,ML.~IT BOARD
TELRD DIVISION Docket Number CL-22031
(Brotherhood of Railway, Airline and
( Steamship Clerks, Freight Handlers,
( Express and Station Enployes
PARTIES TO DISPUTE:
(Chicago and North Western Transportation Company
ST-ATEY= OF CLAIM: Claim of the System Committee of the Brotherhood
GL-8370, that:
"1. Carrier violated the current I.greement Rules, particularly
Rule 21 (Discipline), when under date of January 28, 1976, it dismissed
from service Mr. M.
w.
Gillman, time sorter clerk at Ravenswood, account
of investigation held on January 22, 1976; and
2. Carrier shall required to reinstate Mr. DI. W. Gillman to
the service of the Carrier, and compensate him for all time lost from
January 28, 1976 forward, until such time as the violation is corrected."
OPINION OF BOARD: The Claimant had been an employee for two years and
four months, but at the time of the investigation
was on indefinite furlough due to force reduction.
The Claimant, Mr. M. W. Gillman, was discharged from the service
of the Carrier for allegedly refusing to obey a direct order issued to him
by the Personnel Manager.
The first witness called at the investigation was J. W. Popescue,
Manager, Office Services. He testified as follows:
"Mr. Hayes: Mr. Popescue, would you now explain the basis of
your letter of charges?
Mr. Popescue: The basis of my letter of charges is that considering the circumstances as related
Zickefoose, it appears :dr. M. W. Gillman refused
to obey a direct order of en officer of the
carrier, therefore resulting in insubordination.
I therefore felt an investigation should be
scheduled to develop all the facts."
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The second witness was D. C. Zickefoose, Personnel Manager,
and he testified as follows:
"Mr. Hayes: Would you please state for the record what
transpired between yourself and Mr.
Gillman
on the morning of January
14, 1976
Mr. Zickefoose: At approximately 8:10 A.M. on January 14, 1967,
I observed Mr. Gillman distributing copies of a
leaflet entitled 'The Semaphore' to incoming
employees in the South vestibule in the Ravens
wood Building. I approached :,hike and requested
that inasmuch as he had previously been warned
and counseled about the distribution of 'The
Semaphore' that he go out on the public side
walk off of the Company property for the distri
butior of this document. Mike made a response
something to the effect that it was cold out.
I then responded that we do not need any addi
tional problems, if you want to distribute this,
just go out on the public sidewalk. It was
apparent to me that Mike felt he had a right to
distribute this leaflet on the property, so I
then stated that I am giving you a direct order
to leave the premises if it is your intent to
pass out "The Semaphore'. Do not pass it out on
company property and if you fail to comply it
will result in disciplinary action. At that
point Mike made a comment that I shouldn't get
mad. I did respond that I wasn't mad. I
assume the reason Mike felt I was mad was be
cause I did raise my voice - I did so with the
intent to insure that he did not misunderstand
exactly what I was saying as there were employees
chatting as they were filing in the door. I was
also stern, as I did not want him to misinterpret
the importance of the direct order I was giving
him. Mike responded something to the effect that
an NLRB ruling gave him the right to pass out a
leaflet such as 'The Semaphore' on the property
providing it was passed out prior to his hours of
assignment and not in an immediate work area.
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I then called Mr. Frank Parker, Kane Security
Guard, from his post at the First Floor stairwell, and reiterated my order to Mr. Gillman.
Mike and I stood there for several minutes
during which period of time people were filing
into the building. He asked
how
he could appeal
my decision. or his right or whatever, I suggested
that he see his union representative. Subsequent
to that few minutes of discussion, Mr. Gillman in
the vestibule of the South Wing of company property, began passing 'The Semaphore' out to
employees filing in the door. I identified at
least one individual, to whom ILr. Gill man gave a
copy of 'The Semaphore' subsequent to m;· direct
order. That individual was ?4r. J. W. Lester, of
the Auditor Freight Divisions.
Mr. Zickefoose also testified in regard to prior incidents:
"Mr. -layes: Mr. Zickefoose, to your knowledge did Mr. Gill man
receive any previous warnings about distributing
literature on company property?
Mr. Zickefoose: In June or July of
1975
upon receipt by me of the
initial publication of 'The Semaphore'. I called
I-Like to my office and explained to him that though
it was not my intent to prevent him from exercising
his
rights to freedom of speech, that the distri
bution of this type of leaflet would not be con
sidered appropriate on company property. At a
later date, on entering the Ravenswood Building,
Mike was distributing the leaflets on the steps
leading to the South Door of the Ravenswood
Building, I requested of him to move on out to the
public sidewalk for the distribution of 'The
Semaphore' and he complied."
On cross-examination, the following testimony was elicited
from Personnel Manager Zickefoose:
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"Mr. Stirton: Mr. Zickefoose, when reviewing
the charge
as
documented in the letter of January
14, 1976,
isn't it correct that this entire incident
took place before the assigned working hours
of ifr. Gillman and other first-shift employees?
Mr. Zickefoose: That is correct.
Mr. Stirton: Isn't it also correct that the actual geogra
phic location that he was handing these pam
phlets out might be described as the doorways
comprising the South entrance of the building
which could be described as an area
which is
prior to the general admission or working areas
of the building.
Mr. Zickefoose: I would describe the area as private property
owned by the Chicago and North Western Transportation Company.
Mr. Stirton: Yes, we do not dispute that, however so that
the area can be identified if I made tae state
ment that the area that he passed these docu
ments is not a location that is considered a
working area where duties are performed, this
would be correct or wouldn't it?
Mr. Zickefoose: It would be correct to define this area as not
an immediate work area."
The Claimant, M. W. Gillman, was the third witness. He
testified as follows:
"Mr. Hayes: Mr. Gillman, on January
14, 1976,
at approxi
mately 8:20 a.m., were you standing in the
South entrance vestibule distributing a pub
lication called 'The Semaphore' to fellow
employees?
Mr. Gillman: At approximately 8:20 a.m. on the morning of
January
14, 1976,
I was standing within the
vestibule
which is
a non-:cork area, which at
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"that time was before the working hours of myself and of the other employees entering the
building. I was at that time distributing
copies of 'The Semaphore' which is the voice
of the rank and file action cormtittee which
is a caucus within our union fighting for a
strong and democratic union.
Mr. Fayes: At that time, were you approached by Mr. D.
C. Zickefoose and requested that you leave
the premises if you wished to distribute this
document?
Mr. Gillman: At approximately 8:10 on that morning, Mr.
Zickefoose entered the building and requested
a copy of 'The Semaphore'. I informed fir.
Zickefoose that this paper was meant for the
clerks in this building and that if he wished
one he could obtain it through whatever manner
he wished but I would not give him one. Ap
proximately five minutes later, tLr. Zickefoose
returned to the vestibule in an azitated manner
and requested that I no longer hand out the
leaflet. I informed Mr. Zickefoose that under
a Supreme Court decision, which is cited as
National Labor Relations Board v. Magnavox
Compary of Tennessee, referred to at
94
S. Ct.
1099 (1974),
that employees have the right to
distribute union-related literature on non
working hours in non-working area, and that I
do not feel that his order was just and right
,ul. -~:- ~c.
Mr. Stirton: 2·;r. Gillman, when you passed out these circu
lars or leaflets, known as 'The Semaphore' on
the morning of January
14, 1976,
this distri
bution was limited to a time period prior to
your tour of duty and the tour of duty of
those individuals that you passed these papers
out to, isn't that correct?
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"2·r. Gillman: To the best of
my
knowledge, that is correct.
Mr. Stirton: And also, when you did pass out these papers,
you passed them out at the doorway or entrance
to the building because of inclement weather
and these documents were not passed out in any
of the offices or actual work locations, isn't
that correct?
,dr. Gil lman: That is correct.
:dr. Stirton: Now reference is made in the letter of charges
to insubordination and would it be correct for
me to assume from the prior testimony that you
had no wish to be insubordinate, but that you
felt that because of your knowledge of certain
court decisions and NLRB decisions, that you
were within your right to distribute this in
formation?
?·_r. Gillman: That is correct.
Mr. Hayes: I have just a couple of questions of :,fr. Gillman.
Mr. Gillman, were you given a direct order by
Mr. Zickefoose as previous testimony has in
dicated on the morning of January
14, 1976?
Mr. Gillman: Mr. Zickefoose did give me a direct order -
the question arises as to whether it was justi
fied and lawful for him to give that order?
Mr. Hayes: Did you obey this order or did you continue to
subsequently distribute the publication,
'The Semaphore"'
Mr. Gillman: bL. Zickefoose and I discussed this for several
minutes, at which time Miss ii. Muravski, Member
of the Protective Committee, entered the
building and requested a copy from me at which
time I gave it to her, at which time Mr.
Zick°efoose left the area, saying that I had made
my
decision and that it did not matter anymore,
at :which point I got the feeling that, if that
was his position, I would continue to utiliZ_
my
lawful. rights and continue to :and out this
rublication.
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"M_r. Hayes: Did you continue to hand out the publication?
:nr. Gillman: Yes, I did."
The evidence further indicated that the Claimant was the
Chairperson of the Unemployed Committee of Brotherhood Lodge 803, and
that "The Semaphore" was published and distributed by his committee.
The Carrier then recalled Personnel Manager Zickefoose,
who denied that he threatened the Claimant with expulsion from the
property by use of the local police. He then further testified:
"Mr. Hayes: Did you threaten Mr. Gillman with expulsion
from company property by anyone?
Mr. Zickefoose: I gave him a direct order to leave the property if it was his intent to pass out
Semaphore."'
These were the only witnesses presented at the hearing.
The Carrier argues that the question is quite simple,
i.e.,did the Claimant refuse to comply with a direct order from an
officer of the Company?
The Union takes the position, first of all, that it was
improper for the Personnel Manager to give the order involved herein,
and that he could not have reasonably expected said order to be
obeyed. The Union urges that the distribution of the pamphlet is
protected by the First Amendment and comes within the guidelines
established by the Supreme Court of the United States in that the
pamphlet was distributed prior to assigned working hours in an area
not defined as an immediate work area.
The theory of the Carrier would seem to be that the
Claimant had a duty to obey the order and then to file a grievance
urging that the Personnel Manager did not have the authority to
issue the order. Some arbitrators have offered support for this
theory and perhaps none have more succinctly made the point than.
did Umpire Far:,, Shulman, In the Matter of the Arbitration of
Ford Motor Company, 3 IA 779, 780-781 (1944):
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"Some men apparently think that, ;when a violation of
contract seems clear, the employee may refuse to obey
and taus resort to self-help rather than the grievance
procedure. That is an erroneous point of view. In the
first place, what appears to one party to be a clear
violation may not seem so at all to the other party.
Neither party can be the final judge as to whether the
contract has bee- violated. The determination of that
issue rests on cc! -ective negotiation through the
grievance procedure. But, in the second place, and
more important, the grievance procedure is prescribed
in the contract precisely because the parties anticipated that there would be claims of violations w
would require adjustment. That procedure is prescribed
for all grievances, not merely for doubtful ones.
Nothing in the contract even suggests the idea that only
doubtful. violations need be processed through the
grievance procedure and that clear violations can be
resisted through individual self-help. The only difference between a 'clear' violation and a 'doubtf
is that the former makes a clear grievance and the latter a doubtful one. But both must be handled i
regular prescribed manner.
"When a controversy arises, production cannot wait for
exhaustion of the grievance procedure. While that procedure is being pursued, production must go on.
someone must have the authority to direct the manner in
which it is to go on until the controversy is settled.
That authority is vested in supervision. It must be
vested there because the responsibility for production
is also vested there; and responsibility must be accompanied by authority. It is fairly vested there
the grievance procedure is capable of adequately recompensing employees for abuse of authority by su
There are others who believe that exceptions do exist.
It is suggested that before an employee has a duty to follow an order,
it must be an order the employer was entitled to give and one that the
employer could reasonabl,; expect to have obeyed.
Dr. Elkouri, in "How Arbitration Works," at Pages
154
through
156,
says:
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"Arbitrators often deny or limit requested relief, notwithstanding the merits of the original co
the grievant has resorted to self-help rather than to
the grievance procedure. Mary arbitrators have taken
the position that employees must not take matters into
their own hands but must obey orders and carry out their
assignments, even if believed to violate the agreement,
then turn to the grievance procedure for relief.
The fact that employees acted by 'ad-rice of counsel' has
been held not to provide a defense or justification for
self-help. ilor is a refusal to obey management's orders
i==ized by the fact that the employee was 'caught in
the middle' between company and union., though t2tis fact
might be reason -."or reducing the penalty. In regard to
reducing the penalty, the offense of disobeying orders
has sometimes been considered to have been mitigated
somewhat where the initial refusal to obey was followed
by obedience.
An important exception to the general rule against resorting to self-help exists where obedience
would involve an unusual health hazard or similar
sacrifice.
Some arbitrators have recognized other possible exceptions
to the duty to obey orders, as where the order commands
the performance of an immoral or criminal act; or where
the order violates the rights or domain of the union itself by interfering with the union's contract
to investigate and process grievances; or w=ere an order
interferes with the employee's proper use of the grievance
procedure; or where the order commands a skilled craftsman
to perform work wholly unrelated to his craft; or where
the order 'is quite clearly and indisputably beyond the
authority of the company. * * *"
br. 2ickefcose vas the Personnel Manager and had been
an employee of the Company ten years. He should have known the rights
of the employees in regard to distributing material on the property.
He may have made a serious error in judgment in directing the C imar.t
not to distribute the literature prior to assi=ed working hours is an
area not identified as a.: immediate wors_ area.
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The Company elected to avoid a confrontation on the
question of the right of the Claimant to distribute the literature
and chose instead to discipline the Claimant for willful refusal
to obey the direct order of the Personnel Manager.
The Grievant did not elect to pursue a grievance in regard to the order of the Personnel Manager
self-help by violating the order.
The Grievant urges this Board to decide that the actions
of the Carrier constituted a subterfuge and, therefore, the Carrier
was perrmitted to do indirectly what it was prohibited from doing
directly.
The evidence is clear and convincing in support of the
charge that the Claimant refused to comply with a direct order from
an officer of the Company.
The Claimant has failed to prove that the order falls
within a recognized exception to the general rule against resorting
to self-help.
We find that in the instant case the Claimant should
have obeyed tie order of the Personnel Manager and then pursued his
grievance remedies if he believed the order to be in error.
Although in this case we adopt the obey and grieve theory,
we hasten to add that in a proper case where an established exception
was proven, ,re would not hesitate to grant relief.
However, in this case, the Claimant was simply distributing
literature and was ordered to cease a^.d desist. None of the recognized
exceptions for invoking self-help were proven herein and we hold that
the carrier acted properly in dismissing the Claimant for reusing to
comply with a direct order of a company officer.
FINDINGS: The Third Division of the Adjustment Board, upon the whole
record and all the evidence, finds and holds:
That the parties waived oral hearing;
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That the Carrier and the &nployes involved in this dispute
are respectively Carrier and ~nployes within the meaning of the Railway
Labor Act, as approved Tune 21,
1934;
That this Division of the Adjustment Board has jurisdiction
over the dispute involved herein; and
That the Agreement was not violated.
A W A R D
Claim denied.
NATIONAL RAILROAD ADJUSTi·UMT BCARD
By Order of Third Division
ATTEST:
E~:ecutive Secretary
Dated at Chicago, Illinois, this 15th day of February
1978.