STATEMENT OF CLAIM:
SPECIAL BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT NO. 553
TRANSPORTATION - COMMUNICATION EMPLOYEES UNION
SOUTHERN PACIFIC COMPANY (PACIFIC LINES)
ROY R. RAY. Referee
Award No.
25
Docket No.
25
CARRIER: TEL-152-1062
COMMITTEE: J-465-1;~
GRAD DIV.: 762.1/53
"Claim is presented on appeal from decision of Superin- "
tendent, T
ucson.Division, as follows:
'!1. Carrier violated Rules 1,
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37 11+1 16 and 17
Telegraphers' Agreement, on August 6, 1959 and on
each date and in each instance subsequent to August 61
1959 when it required or permitted employes not
covered by the Telegraphers' Agreement and who hold
no rights under this Agreement
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to report trains (OS),
transmit and receive line up of work to be performed
and receive line-ups of trains direct with the trick
dispatcher,
"2.
The Carrier shall compensate the following employes:
(a) Claim in behalf of C. A. Adams' Agent-telegrapher
Bowie, Arizona for one special call, August 6,
1959.
(b) Claim in behalf of R. E. O'Connor, Agent-telegrapher
Willcox, Arizona, for one special call, August 6,
1959.
(c) Claim in behalf of A. Adams Agents Bensons Arizona
for one special call, August 6,
959.
(d) Claim in behalf of H: A. Morse Agent-telegrapher z
Dragoons Arizona, for one special calls August
6, 195y,'°
OPINION OF BOARD: 'The claim charges that on several occasions on
August 6,
1959
members of train crews telephoned the dispatcher at
Tucson direct from outlying stations, reported their trains transmitted
and received lineup of work to be performed and train line ups. The
several conversations
will
be considered separately as sub-claims.
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Sub-Claim No. 1:, At 11:,25 A.M. a crew member telephoned the dispatcher,
gave his position as Bowie and said "we will have
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cars leaving here
including 3 for Douglas. There was no operator on duty at Willcox
pd no bills in. the box as we came east." Dispatcher said "O.K. there
is no use in stopping at Willcox then." Crew member said, "we are
ready to leave here now." Carrier says that the information as to cars
in the train was voluntary and there is no evidence that dispatcher
took any action on it. We are not impressed with this-argument. The
crewman gave the train's. position and its departure as well as the
consist of the train. The dispatcher authorized the train not to
stop at Willcox. This conversation concerned the movement of the
train and the claim is meritorious.
Sub-Claim No. 2: At
4:03
A.M. a member of the crew of Extra 5657 East
called the dispatcher from Willcox and said, "We are in here for the
passenger trains." Dispatcher said,."yes No. 1 and No.
4
will meet
either at Raso or Luzena so you won't get out of there before about
5:15
A.M. . . . . Pick up at San Simon SP
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copper for the east
set out account of hot box has been rewheeled and~ready to move,
waybill at Lordsburg."
Carrier says this is not a lineup of passenger trains or
the copying of a message of record; that the conversation was unnecessary.
We think this type
of
communication relates to the movement of trains
and have so held in .ward 14, Claim 1, Sub-claim 15. The train crew
reported itself in tae clear. The dispatcher gave instructions con
cerning the pick-upl;% `and set out of a car. The claim is sustained.
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Sub-Claim No. 3
: At 4:10 A.M. a member of the crew of Extra 6241
West called dispatcher from Benson, gave his position and said he
was ready to go. The dispatcher said O.K. At 4:13 a crew member of
the Bowie Turn called dispatcher and said, "We have three cars to
set out at Mescal from Douglas." Dispatcher said O.K. Carrier says
' there was no reason for either of these calls; that the dispatcher
knew from the CTC board the location of the trains. By the first
call the crew certainly gave its location and secured permission
to move. In our view this related to train movements and we sustain
the claim for one call without passing upon the second telephone
conversation.
Sub-Claim No. 4
: At 2:53 A.M. a trainman called the dispatcher direct
from Dragoon and said, "Have switch list for LA 36041.Box at Cochise
for E1 Paso set out by another conductor. Do you have anything on
it." Dispatcher said no, but he would find out from agent after he
came,·on duty. .Crewman said, "We have a tank car to pick up at Benson
and will head it in on the powder track. Am leaving Dragoon now."
Carrier says the conversation was unsolicited and indecisLve and that
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there is no evidence that the dispatcher took an action thereon.
Nevertheless the crew reported its position, inquired 'about what to
do with a particular car, stated its line-up of work for two stations
and its depa-ture. We believe these communications related to train
movements, aiid therefore sustain the claim. .
· Carrier has argued that none of the four conversations .
qualified as ,.train orders, or train line-ups; that they were unnecessary
since train',t iovement of trains in CTC territory is controlled by signal
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indication. We are not persuaded. They need not be technical train
orders or line-ups. As we have said in another award the. fact that
the communication was in OTC territory is not controlling. ,S.B.A,,553~
Award 10. ,If due to CTC there is no need for this type of communication
why do the trainmen and dispatcher continue to use it. Carrier can
easily have its employees discontinue these calls. The fact that
the trainmen and dispatchers continue to resort to this type of
communication casts doubt on Carrier's argument. Our position finds
support in Award
6343
of the Third Division.
AWARD
The claim is sustained for call payments to each of the
telegraphers named.
SPECIAL BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT N0.
553
Roy R. Ray, Chair
. A. Bobo,, Employs Member . W. Sloan,
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Member
San Franc, Ysco, California
Septembe:21
1965
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